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Windows 10 is awful spyware. It records nearly EVERYTHING you do on your computer. Here's what to do about it.

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Why Microsoft spy on their users

Google, Facebook, Amazon and others have adopted a business model in which huge databases are constructed about their users' contacts, who and when they talk/email/chat, what about, what files they store, calendar contents, search history, bookmarks, posts, likes, where/when you go physically, what they read and buy... and on... and on.* Doing this allows them to know their users in incredibly intimate detail. They are then able to promise advertisers that their ads can be targeted with huge precision because they know who to display specific ads to. This is where many modern billions are made.

In this context, Microsoft have a distinct advantage: a world-wide near monopoly on desktop operating systems. They have chosen, via Windows 10 and retroactive updates to Windows 8 and 7, to make use of this monopoly. Windows 7, 8 and 10 now gather gigantic amounts of data about Windows users. In this way, Microsoft can potentially out-compete Google, Facebook and the rest. (That means you are not avoiding Microsoft's violation of your privacy by staying on Windows 7 or 8.)

What Microsoft's Windows collects about users

Recent EU pressure on Microsoft about its privacy practices (including over the 2017 Creators update) seems to have forced them to reveal which "telemetry" data Windows 10 gathers. It includes, but is absolutely not limited to:

  • What you search for online
  • What files you search on your computer
  • Which networks are available to you/near you
  • Voice recognition (activated, it listens all the time)
  • Typing patterns that may uniquely identify you
  • Which keys you are hitting (in principle can record everything you type)
  • How long you have your browser open
  • Which websites you visit
  • How many photos you have
  • Which music/videos you have/listen to/watch
  • Which programs you have installed
  • What you search for within programs
  • Make, model and serial number of all your hardware
  • What you write, including with a pen/stylus
  • How you write, including with a pen/stylus (which can identify you)

... and all of this in addition to the data you give them if you have a Microsoft account:

  • name
  • phone number
  • email address
  • calendar information
  • and contacts (who you know and all their details)

Note also, that if you use Microsoft's email services, e.g. Outlook, or other services, like LinkedIn, they can correlate all of this information with what you email, when you email it and to whom and who you know.

Note that if you store other people's contact details or private information on your Windows machine, all of this in principle can be monitored by Microsoft. For example, if you search in your computer (locally) for a name that has someone's personal details (e.g. name, address, National Security Number), all of this can be sent to Microsoft servers. Microsoft is therefore not only using your privacy for their profit by amassing your details into a database, but also that of people you may know, contact or whose details you might be responsible for, even if they never agreed to Microsoft's Terms and Conditions or Privacy Policy.

Microsoft categorize the telemetry settings into "Basic" and "Full", and claim that user data collected is not personally identifiable. This is misleading. Firstly, the Basic level collects 90% of what the Full level collects, so it's does not give users meaningful control. Secondly, at least according to one former Microsoft employee, Jerry Berg, Microsoft databases are easily cross-linked and therefore it is trivially easy to correlate telemetry gathered via Windows to, e.g. telephone numbers and mobile phone sim card numbers, and vast amounts of other types of personally identifiable data.

Why It is Wrong & Dangerous

  1. Microsoft push updates to Windows computers and with them install ever-increasing levels of spyware ("telemetry") from which users cannot, effectively, opt out. This applies to paying customers. Microsoft already has their money; but it wants to make more by violating your privacy and freedom to say no.

  2. When you read the End User Licence Agreement that every Windows installation requires, you realize that Microsoft retain the right to control your computer. Whilst you might, on a day-to-day level feel that you are the computers owner, it remains nevertheless true that Microsoft can download and install software onto your computer against your wishes, reset your preferences and much else besides. This means that your computer becomes a node for software you might not want, but for which you paid to have the privilege of not controlling. This is unethical because it gives control of your machine to Microsoft. However much control you have, they have more.

  3. Microsoft updates - the recent Creators one included - resets many user preferences, such as which browser is default. In effect, this is saying they don't care about what you like; they will try any and every trick to get you to use their preferred apps instead of those you chose. Again, the reason for this is because their apps give them enhanced levels of information about what you are doing on your own computer.

  4. All data Microsoft collects and stores about its users can be subpoenad under NSL and FISA legislation in the US, and this applies to information about non-US citizens. So Microsoft and the American government (and companies they sub-contract, e.g. to analyze the data) can know everything about you, even if you are not American and have never even been to the US. And, of course, you have no choice to opt out. Because it is true that Microsoft control your computer (see point 2 above), your computer effectively becomes a spyware device for both the company who stand to profit (Microsoft) and US federal agencies, like the FBI, who can - in principle at least - force Microsoft to use your computer to spy on you. If you doubt this relationship between large US firms and the feds, read about how Yahoo wrote software for the FBI to search through all their users emails. Yahoo has also had hundreds of millions of accounts hacked, and some have alleged this was made possible by a security exploit introduced by the feds.

  5. Databases of private people of the type Microsoft is creating are ripe for huge abuses. Please observe that every totalitarian government in history has aimed to manipulate citizens by gathering information about them. For any kind of political power to know what its citizens are thinking, what they are saying, where they are going, with whom they are meeting, what... all of this is a problem because:

  • people change their behaviour when they know they are being observed (they cannot be themselves)
  • it gives people with this data the ability to manipulate emotions (as Facebook did), predict political prefernces and your personality generally, control the flow of information, pre-empt protests, thwart human rights activism, and a lot else besides. The only thing that stands in the way once the databases exist is the will, political or otherwise, to misuse it.
  • there are no guarantees where the data will be in the future. Who will own Microsoft's data in 20 years? Even if you trust them, it's still a fact that the largest technology companies (e.g. here) and intelligence agencies leak sensitive, even top secret information (see the recent FBI Vault 7 leaks or the NSA's leak of Windows exploits).
  • As Jerry Berg explains, databases of the kind Microsoft are creating can be correlated and subpoenad to incriminate even innocent people. I would add that with such capability, you should now be scared not to cross the people who can use that data against you. Except, as I wrote above, you don't know who that will be, necessarily.

The only way to avoid all of these problems is not to create such databases in the first place.

(You should also know: previous independent programs/apps distributed by individuals aiming to help people switch of Windows telemetry are now unlikely to work because of "under-the-hood" changes the recent Creators update includes.)

What you can do about Windows spying

If the databases continue to be created, as individuals we have the choice (still) to opt out by not using products that treat us this way. If you don't have to use Windows (and most people reading this probably don't have to), then I cannot possibly recommend anything other than to switch away to an operating system that doesn't spy on you. Note that some of what Windows does, Apple's MacOS also does. For example, Apple's desktop search app, Spotlight, records the search terms you use on your own computer. (You can disable this, but then you disable the search.)

Operating systems that do not spy on users include Linux and BSD. Of these, Linux is by far the more popular and comes in many different flavors, including user-friendly versions for beginners (e.g. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, OpenSuse and even Manjaro). They are also free, open-source (which means the code can be trusted) and have huge communities of people happy to help newcomers. There are general Linux forums and distribution specific forums. Modern Linux distros are now largely so usable and stable that a beginner would only really have to relearn a couple of basics about what some new icons do and where some folders are that they might not be used to. That's about it. It is also possible to run Linux with Windows in a virtual machine for programs that don't have a Linux equivalent (although most do).

Other fantastic resources online that you can use to learn more about protecting your privacy are:

  • PrivacyTools.io (info on everything from browsers to file sharing)
  • ThatOnePrivacySite (the best site for neutral analysis and reviews of VPNs and private email services)
  • PrismBreak (read advice about how to avoid being surveilled by the government)

The other thing to do is to campaign against what Microsoft (and Google, Facebook, etc.) are doing. Contact your local representatives, politicians, MP or MEP and get them to kick up a fuss about this. You can also


Last updated: 2017-04-20

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Well said, well written, nothing to add. Welcome to the world of the Gafam...where every move you make, every step you take, THEY'LL BE WATCHING YOU...MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE...


Abomination for long-time Windows users, end of the line

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I used to like Windows, despite being commercial OS, mainly for it's software base and good architecture, but practically every feature Micro$oft is introducing since version 8 is completely missed. Tablet-like interface and separate kind of apps with own runtime environment, Start button removal, forcing secure boot, worse support for legacy programs, weird GUI solutions (active corners? CHARMS??? Pls, no). And now they're going full spy-mode, deliberately recording every user's action, and claiming rights to remotely remove any application, pushing updates, that are normally impossible to cancel? What is that, who's supposed to control own computer? Its user or some monopolistic corporation, who started to think of its operating system as of invigilation tool? With Windows 10 your computer is less personal than ever. For now i'll continue using Windows 7, and i stopped deluding myself that they revert to old developing strategy at some point. I was hesitating with migration to Linux since long time, but this seems to be future for users who care about what they use.

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Windows 7 was the end of the line MS for me, which is a shame because I liked it. Hearing about all of the privacy issues, forced updates that interrupt you and break working features, advertisements, etc in Windows 10 has driven me to Linux.


A commercial trojan

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If you want to assist the US government in its quest for world domination or if you need a technological superego that constantly checks, watches and profiles everything you do and reports all of your activity to malicious institutions, then this trojan disguised as an operating system is the perfect choice for you. All others who still understand what freedom means should seriously consider switching to alternatives or stick with older versions of Windows (beware of the telemetry and spyware updates for Win7/8).

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tin foil autismo detected

Don't be naive. Hollywood shows you exactly what the masons are up to.


Micro$oft WinBlows

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Make no mistake, Micro$oft has gotten cocky with their near-monopoly. Window$ will only get worse.

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They are shrinking even if they don't believe so. Apple was nearly dead at one stage - not so anymore. Linux is gaining ground - reason android is basically linux. It is being installed in many many ARM devices and phones. I think windows greatest mistake was when they panicked with the advent of phones becoming more like PCs. Suddenly programs were called "apps" and windows just did not work on ARM at that time. They could see PCs going ARM because the batteries actually lasted. - What did they do?...They made the PC windows look like a phone with little app squares... pffft (sorry, just blew my coffee everywhere) A menu is supposed to be functional not little squares. Win 7 was way better. Now Linux has a real menu and Windows has NOTHING. It is like taking a muscle car and thinking that making it heavier makes it less nippy so it will be more like a cheap car and appeal to cheap car users!!!
They should have focused on the problem - windows is too slow and demanding It was too orientated to bloatware advertising and too worried about so called theft - I legitimately own windows 95 but can I install it... No I need a legitimate DOS so basically they have in effect stolen MY property by being too paranoid about what I might steal. Perhaps their high PC demand was behind the scenes collaboration with the hardware manufacturers, but ultimately it backfires. I can honestly only see Linux gaining the lions share in the coming decades.

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Spyware

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Who in their right mind would use this OS. Spyware (hi NSA), shitty dos, doesnt respect other bootloaders etc etc.

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I hate it.

  • It installs trash on your computer without your consent.
  • It forces updates
  • It spies on you.
  • Built-in advertisements
  • Stupid expensive!

Worst Windows release ever, I'd much rather Windows XP.

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  • buggy
  • slow
  • no control
  • advertisements everywhere
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I have to work with Windows 10 constantly at work (in IT), and I dread every moment of it. It's slow, buggy, a nightmare for security, constantly has problems, random shutdowns, and now they've even pulled their most recent update (v.1809) because of systems deleting user files. O_o

Not only is it buggy and slow, but it's a nightmare to try and secure, constantly nags for updates, spies on you, uses your own personal information to target you with ads and forces unwanted 'features' and updates, even if you select that you don't want them. Luckily, I am able to use GNU/Linux at work on my own machine, otherwise I may have already lost my mind.

If Windows 10 comes pre-installed on a computer you buy, or you are thinking about what alternatives there are, please consider trying out a GNU/Linux distribution. Linux is far more secure, and nowadays, far friendlier in terms of user experience.

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How is this getting more than 2 stars if almost every review is negative?

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Let us take a jump back to long, long ago, in 2016. I had just gotten my first computer for school. It was running Windows 10, with arguably above-average hardware specs. Growing up with Windows my whole life, as I am sure many of us did, I had no complaints. It's Windows 10! It's gotta be the latest and greatest! I didn't complain for a whole two years. Windows 10 was working well enough. It was a little slow and heavy on resources, but I guess I could live with that. Oh, there's a bunch of bloatware that I have to get rid of. That's fine, I'll just remove it. I can't remove Edge or OneDrive? Lame. This Settings menu is weird; why does the Windows 7 control panel show up sometimes? Telemetry? What's that? Is it a Pokemon? These issues are things I considered minor nuisances, and I put up with them, whether it be due to a lack of knowledge or a lack of care.

Things started getting worse. "WHAT? Windows update? And I can't stop it? I don't have a choice? That's not cool, man." That was when I realized that I wasn't truly in control of my computer, that I was at the mercy of Microsoft. It really rubbed me the wrong way. (I don't know if Windows Updates were forced back in older versions. If they were, then...well, this sucks.) Disgruntled, I thought, fine. I'll have to suck it up. It can't get any worse, right?

Wrong. By chance, about a year ago, I happened to stumble upon a few arguments about taking back our privacy. They were quite compelling, and they had a few links to some websites that helped you regain privacy. I think they were sites like prism-break and privacytools.io. (privacytools is how I found AlternativeTo, by the way.) I started learning about all these different alternative software that I didn't know existed. Then, I came to Windows 10 in the list. It covered just how much data it tries to siphon and send to Microsoft. That was the final straw. This is what led me down the path to pulling myself out of the big tech corporation's webs. Along with shutting up Windows 10 as best as I could (ShutUp10, BlackBird), I started switching out all my software, including Windows 10 to Linux.

In the end, it's hard for me to go back to Windows 10. I still keep it around on my computer for a few games. Also, after spending lots of time on Linux, I can clearly see the difference in speed when logging in and starting up applications. Vivaldi would take about 5 or more seconds to boot up on Windows, while on Linux it would take 3. VLC would take 3 seconds on Windows, but 0.4 on Linux. Lastly, I am reminded that with Windows 10, you are never truly in control of your computer, unless you do your best to rip out all the telemetry, Windows updates, and all that stuff.

I don't think it's entirely fair to focus only on the negative aspects of Windows 10, though. Compared to most other people, I did have a satisfactory experience with Windows, although I still liked using 7 on the family computer more than Windows 10. The Start Menu appealed to me, as someone who likes customizing layouts to fit my needs. Of my two years of using it for school, Windows 10 has blue-screened two times. Fortunately, nothing serious to my files happened. On Linux, I haven't exactly crashed and burned down the system Windows-style, but I have required many a reboot to fix something that I didn't know broke. I dunno. I could be a very lucky individual with my arguably stable Windows experience. You could also say it's just the nature of Linux; a user bumbling around, touching things they don't understand and breaking them causes the problems, not Linux.

That was my journey. Here's a quick summary if you got lost or if you don't care to read the rest.

PROS

  • Nice and customizable start menu
  • Relatively stable (results may vary)
  • Lots of software written for it

CONS

  • Much slower than Linux
  • Lots of bloatware, especially if you haven't done a clean install. (even then, I don't think it's bloatware-free)
  • Telemetry, lots of it
  • Mandatory updates (can be held off for later, but if you don't take the proper measures, it will happen at some point)
  • Extremely difficult to remove Edge and OneDrive
  • Heavy on resources
  • Strange settings EDIT: [behaviour] (I believe it has changed over the years)

[Edited by TerrifiedTyphlosion, February 14]

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Very buggy and slow, as a computer technician i hate this product.
Brings bad discoveries every day.
If you are forced to use this nightmare system, before operating, install an app like ShutUp10 or another.
If possible - use Win7 or Linux.
You are warned.

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Classic Shell should be integrated, many disadvantages

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Many Disadvantages of Windows 10:

  • The start-menu of Windows 10 is unusable. If You install Classic Shell you have the very good start-menu from Windows 7 with printers and autostart group again
  • I miss the autostart group in the start-menu of Windows 10 without "Classic Shell"
  • In Windows 10 I cannot change the name of the local "OneDrive"-Folder to "OD" to avoid very long path-names, in Windows 8.1 I could
  • I had to reinstall SafeSync for Enterprise from a msi-Setup-File after Upgrading from Win 8.1 to Win 10 64bit Home, all other programs worked again without new installation
  • I would never use Edge instead of the better Firefox portable, because Edge has no plug-ins or add-ons: In the add-ons it currently looks rather poor. Microsoft has been announced that there will be extensions, and that even the existing add-ons for other browsers will work in Edge. When this will be the case, however, is not certain.
  • Windows 10 has so many disadvantages, that it is necessary to integrate a Uservoice-Feedback-platform, where users can suggest and vote about ideas to improve Windows 10. I miss an integrated Uservoice-Feedback-platform in Windows 10.
  • It is annoing, that the Windows-10-UAC asks everytime, when I open a portable app, if this app is secure. I miss a setting, where I only one time can declare a new portable app as "secure". I do not like apps, which must be installed, I prefer Liberkey portable apps.
  • Network-Drives defined with SUBST are not visible in many apps and dialogs in Windows 10. This is annoing, because I use "Index Your Files" portable (IYF) for searching files in big networks with SUBST-drive-letters instead of long network-paths.

Advantage of Windows 10 compared with Windows 8.1

  • Symbols of programs in the task-bar, which are opened, are underlined now in white. So it is easier to avoid second instances of apps and programs.
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The perfect NSA friend.
If you are a private person, you should consider the world you want to live in, and the world in the coming years, for the future generations.

If you run a company, you should use a Gnu Linux Operating system, and use Open Source software.

It's not a question of paranoia, just good sense.

Do you really think that US companies would use proprietary chinese operating system? Never. So why should we use Windows? Ubuntu, Debian and other GNU Linux Distributions must prevail, soon or later.

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I am too ill to fight the spying. That is not to say that I will accept Windows 10, but I may just give up on computing and the internet entirely.

[Edited by bird, November 16]


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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/researcher-cia-nsa-may-have-infiltrated-microsoft-to-write-malware.188492/

Windows 10 has telemetry, it has spyware, it has BLOATware... it reeks of the CIA, NSA.

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google windows 10 debloat. Also you can prevent telemetry via a lightweight firewall software such as simplewall.

I don't know DillFrescott, I think having to do that gives me a bad impression. I shouldn't have to.