Evernote Comments

I prefer Maxnote more

Comment by lizziezhang
about Evernote · Jun 2017 ·

I use Evernote for four years so far.
The latest update indeed pulls me back a little bit, while the iOS version is still far from satisfying.
So I begin my long term odyssey to find a better alternative to Evernote.
I tried a lot of products including Youdao, Weizhi, Dropbox, NoeNote, and Maxnote.
They all have something attracting me while cannot fully fulfill my needs.
Until I meet Maxnote, which is an inbuilt feature in Maxthon5 browser. It's a product from a company focus on browser developing for 13 years.
So I believe their profession and skills.
Maxnote is available on several platforms, including PC, Mac, iOS, and Android. That perfect suits me since I have a Mac at home, a PC in the office, and use iPhone and Android tablet. So you can imagine Maxthon5 is what an angle to me. I can use it anywhere, anytime; both online and offline.
Happy to share it with you guys!

Reply

Not recommended

about Evernote · ·

• It is far and away lacking many features of onenote, most noticeably the ability to have sections and subsections of notes in binders. Making it not good for keeping ORGANIZED notes.
• Doesn’t support table colour and sorting
• Evernote can't be used to draw with the stylus
Evernote Free Version cannot add file more than 25MB

I like it

Reply

A good alternative - Dropbox plus "Save as file"

Comment by maxrempel
about Evernote · Feb 2017 ·

"Save as file" is a good alternative - you can take screenshots and save them as JPGs in dropbox or you can copy text and paste it as text or html in dropbox.

Hi,everyone,I would like to recommend you this awesome note app-MixNote! If you don’t want other people to view a note, it can help you lock and hide it. enjoy ;)

Reply

A good alternative - Dropbox plus "Save as file"

Comment by maxrempel
about Evernote · Feb 2017 ·

"Save as file" is a good alternative - you can take screenshots and save them as JPGs in dropbox or you can copy text and paste it as text or html in dropbox.

Reply

Really became bloatware

about Evernote and Google Keep · ·

Hope google adds markdown support to Google Keep soon

Reply

Evernote's lack of encryption should make you think twice about giving them your data.

Comment by JohnFastman
about Evernote and Facebook, Dropbox, SpiderOak · Jan 2017 · 9 Helpful
THE PROBLEM WITH EVERNOTE-TYPE CLOUD SERVICES

Bookmarks, notes, pictures, scanned documents and other data placed in Evernote are analyzed and indexed to help you organize and search through them later. Evernote even applies hand-writing recognition algorithms, e.g. to scanned notes, so the text can be indexed and searched.

This is possible because the data you send to Evernote is not encryped. It's perfectly readable to anyone with access. This has awful security and privacy implications most people don't worry nearly enough about.

For example, it makes you vulnerable in these ways:

  • Hackers & Security: If hackers gain access to your Evernote stuff (they've been hacked before, even recently), they can obtain all of it in a form readable to them. Which means they know just about everything about you that you shared with Evernote. Moreover, companies make mistakes with security (one very popular company managed to accidentally disable the requirement for any password protection on people's accounts at one point.)

  • Mass Surveillance: If the NSA ask Evernote for your data using a National Security Letter, Evernote can be compelled to give them your data and can even be prevented from telling you that they did this. The Snowden leaks show the NSA have targeted data hosted by many other companies, including Google, Microsoft (inc. Skype), Facebook, Yahoo and Dropbox. Each of these companies also store their users' data in a readable form. By the way, we're not talking here about the NSA targeting criminal suspects. We're talking about mass surveillance. (Trump's incoming administration includes strong supporters of indiscriminate surveillance of this type.) National Security Letters mean the NSA can gain access to your data and the company, e.g. Evernote, Google, whatever, can be banned from telling you about it. (If you're one of the "I have nothing to hide" people, "read this". The bottom line is you have the right to privacy, which you should be interested in protecting, and you don't know who will have your data in 5, 10 or 20 years time, how they might use it to incriminate you or other people it might refer to or implicate, or even in what legal jurisdiction that might be happening.)

  • Rogue employees: Not much stops company employees behaving unethically if they access to your data. You can't predict what this would lead to. The employees of other companies have done unethical things with people's data before.

Evernote's privacy policy doesn't protect you against any of the above. It's just a policy, which is - at best - upheld when everything is going well. But even that's not something to rely on. Recently, Evernote wanted to change its privacy policy in a way that would have given employees routine access to users' data. They backed out of the change due to the consequent public uproar. However, it shows just how easy it would have been to do: there is no obstacle; your data is there to be read - it's just a question of policy. In a month, or a year from now, they could try something like that again. Who knows.

All these considerations also apply to Evernote's largest competitors, OneNote (by Microsoft) and Google Keep. And 95% of other companies that offer you cloud storage, including Dropbox, Box.com, SugarSync, Facebook, Twitter, Slack and Skype. I've singled out Evernote here because they have a service that collects not "just" your chat or contacts, or "just" your shared documents... but, in principle, everything.


YOUR ONLY FRIEND IS ENCRYPTION

Your only friend in this context, to protect your data in the cloud, is end-to-end encryption. Tried and tested algorithms which encrypt your data with a password only you keep. That way, data is encrypted on your computer before being stored online. If you have that setup, the company storing the data cannot interpret what the content is. With a strong enough algorithm (e.g. AES-256) and a complex enough password, your data should be safe from all of the eventualities I described above.
It's worth being aware that many companies claim to be a) secure and even b) use encryption. But it needs to be specifically end-to-end encryption, or "zero-knowledge". If it's not encrypted, encrypted "server-side" or "at rest" only, and if they don't say they don't keep the keys for themselves, then you're not protected and others can read your data.

For reference, here is a list of apps and services that do use end-to-end encryption (or zero-knowledge):
- Email: Tutanota, Protonmail and Startmail.
- Online Video calls: Jitsi Meet or the Jitsi client configured via an XMPP (Jabber) server.
- Mobile text messages: Signal (for Android and iPhone)
- File Backup/Sync: Spideroak, Tresorit and Backblaze. Duplicati will create encrypted backups of your files and let you decide how to upload them. Cryptomator does the same but aims at sync, not backup.


SO WHAT'S THE BEST PRIVACY-FRIENDLY EVERNOTE ALTERNATIVE?

Sadly, this area is lagging behind.

Option 1: Something that does what Evernote does and includes encryption

If you only need simple notes and don't need mobile, try Laverna. It's open source, supports simple text notes and html and uses markdown for formating. (It's also free.)

If you need something closer to Evernote functionality, there's Turtl. I think this is an excellent potential Evernote killer. Still in beta (so don't expect everything to be perfect), but it already does the following:

  • End-to-end encryption, hosted in Germany.
  • Windows, Mac and Linux compatible (Evernote doesn't have a Linux client; you need the slightly inferior NixNotes for that)
  • Has an Android app (iOS on the way).
  • Can store and sync bookmarks, files (pdf, images, etc.) and simple notes.
  • You can share what you store with other users and still do it encrypted.
  • You can use markdown to have formating in your notes.
  • Good seach and tagging functionality.
  • Has a web browser extension that allows you to clip content.
  • It's open source and free! It's VERY worthy of financial support, though.

Option 2: Store & organize your data on your computer, encrypt it on your computer and sync however you wish

For this, probably the best option is Tagspaces to organize your notes and files. Supports note taking, markdown, tagging, search and has browser plugins. There's a free version which is very functional and it works on Linux, Mac and Windows. The idea is you would use it on your computer to organize your notes, files and tags, etc. The folder(s) in which the data is sitting could easily be encrypted with Cryptomator. The encrypted version can be sent to the cloud without (too many) privacy worries. This doesn't solve everything, like taking notes on a mobile, but it is a good solution and I use this for my work files.

For mobile: take your notes on a mobile and sync with and end-to-end encrypted service (see "File Backup/Sync" suggestions above, or with the excellent service from Seafile.de, which has the option of encrypting file contents, even if not the file name.

If you need an encrypted note-taking app but you don't need the integration of uploaded pdf files, for example, try - in a manner similar to my TagSpaces suggestion - an app called Zim, which quite a lot of people seem to like (for my purposes TagSpaces and Turtl serve me better).

[Edited by JohnFastman, January 04]

[Edited by JohnFastman, January 04]

In light of the above, it's interesting to read Evernote's privacy policy reversal announcement. The announcement mentions weak changes like the CEO's personal oversight, and a range of new consultations with privacy experts. None of this will secure users' data against hackers or three letter agencies. As mentioned above, the answer is technological and it's called end-to-end encryption. Evernote fails even to mention encryption in their announcement. Heartening is the fact that quite a large portion of users call for it in the comments section (click above link to see).

One concern is whether end-to-end encryption would prevent notes from being searchable. The answer is no, if it was done right. It's possible in Turtl, the alternative app I recommended above. If Turtl can do it, Evernote can do it. The only question is whether they want to. Which is like asking whether they want to properly protect users' privacy. Time will tell. I predict they won't implement it because it would mean a significant code re-write and because it won't directly translate to larger profits given quite large portion of the customer base and potential customer base would have to be informed about the advantages.

Reply

Stop Evernote

about Evernote · · 4 Helpful

Evernote will read all your notes and limit to two clients.

There's a news about this: Evernote will no longer change its privacy policy in January.
Just added in our news archive ;)
https://alternativeto.net/news/all

Evernote originally stated that its new privacy policy will give humans access to read your Evernote contents. Due to customer concerns, they have backtracked on this. However, it remains true that Evernote's contents are not end-to-end encrypted and therefore they are accessible by Evernote, three letter agencies and any hackers who gain access to Evernote's servers.
More privacy-oriented options I suggest:

  1. For cross-platform file organization with tagging, searching, etc. try the excellent open source TagSpaces, which organizes files locally (no cloud upload). However, you can sync the organized files, tags and everything, using your favourite cloud service. Moreover, you can integrate that easily with Cryptomator if you want to have the benefit of easy end-to-end encryption. It's an excellent solution. TagSpaces also works on Linux, which Evernote does not and it also has a browser plugin.

  2. If you use Evernote primarily for syncing bookmarks, try the end-to-end encrypted Turtl, which stores and syncs simple notes, files and bookmarks. Also works on Linux, Mac and Windows.

Stop Evernote. Period.

Reply

helpful

about Evernote · ·

helps me make notes, to-dos, voice memos and much more. very handy. 10/10 from me.

Reply

markup issues

about Evernote · · 2 Helpful

Can easily screw up the notes, if the markup is pretty complicated. Happened many times with me, so I had to switch to other solutions.
Hard to export your data, only some enux format, which is proprietary.
Recent update limit number of connected devices, which is another downside...

Reply

great app

about Evernote · · -1 Helpful

really helps with tasks and its really easy to learn. one of the best apps ever made

Not the best app if you use Linux (no support). Also not the best app if you care about your privacy: Evernote doesn't encrypt your data in a way that is private only to you: they have access to all your information and therefore so do any hackers that might gain access to Evernote's servers. Also, because Evernote are a US-based company they can be forced to give up your private information to intelligence agencies. See my comment above for more Linux-friendly and privacy-friendly alternatives.

Reply

Changes to plans and pricing

about Evernote · · 5 Helpful

https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2016/06/28/changes-to-evernotes-pricing-plans/

Importantly for free/basic users: "Beginning today, the prices for our Plus and Premium tiers will change for new subscriptions, and access from Evernote Basic accounts will be limited to two devices."

Evernote have also announced higher prices for paid plans.

Evernote Basic
Free

The easiest way to get started with Evernote, Basic has been and will remain free of charge. Evernote Basic supports web clipping and note sharing, so you can capture memories, ideas, and inspiration and save them forever.

On Basic, you can access notes on up to two devices, such as a computer and phone, two computers, or a phone and a tablet, as well as on the web, so you can continue to take your notes with you throughout your day. Passcode lock on the mobile app, formerly a paid feature, is now available on Basic as well.

Evernote Plus
$3.99/month or $34.99/year (save 27%)

To stay in sync across all your devices, consider Evernote Plus. You’ll also enjoy the ability to take notebooks offline on a mobile device, so your notes will be with you wherever you go, even when there’s no Internet connection. You can forward emails into Evernote and keep them alongside related notes, complete with attachments, and 1 GB of upload space each month means you can keep all your projects together.

Evernote Premium
$7.99/month or $69.99/year (save 27%)

Get the full power of Evernote with Evernote Premium, a set of tools designed to help you go paperless and take ideas into action across all your devices. Find text buried inside Office docs. Annotate PDFs. Discover connections between notes, turn business cards into phone contacts, or present your work with one click. Premium includes 10 GB of monthly upload space, and you have all the benefits of Plus and Basic, too.

Reply

Life helper

about Evernote · ·

App - reminder. It helps when there is no time for everything. Great design .

Reply

Great app!

Comment by JamesJoyce
about Evernote · Jan 2016 ·

What I like most is the constant improvement, rapid correction of minor errors and great custom support! From my point of view, one of the best apps in productivity segment!

Reply

like it but..

Comment by robertmu
about Evernote · Jan 2016 ·

i like it but i definitely think it needs to some improvements.

Reply

Evernote Activity log